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I also recently read that they're genetically 98% vampire.
Bite me. -Toph
rashaka wrote in metaquotes
goldy_dollar on Doctor Who fandom:

-I have decided that whenever I come across accusations that Rose fans are wanky, I am going to close my eyes and THINK OF THE LOOMS. I mean, really, fandom? You come up with this elaborate backstory where fully grown Time Lords randomly POP OUT OF LOOMS just to have an explanation for why your main character MUST NOT HAVE SEX UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and it is all based on some spin-off book that clearly has NO BASIS IN CANON WHATSOEVER. But Rose fans are wanky? Okay, then.

I find this endlessly amusing. Hahaha. Looooooooooms.


Context is for the weak, like sleep. I still think weaving is an inaccurate metaphor for genetics.


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Re: But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

From what I remember about the book featuring the Looms, they were created around the time that the Doctor was in his 7th regeneration (correct me if I'm wrong), so definitely post-Susan. They were used to boost the population because the Time Lords had been cursed with the inability to produce children. But then again, I could be wrong. The book could be attempting to say that ALL Time Lords EVER were created on Looms.

In which case, I think the BBC needs to say that that particular book isn't canon because it's just the worst idea ever. D:

Re: But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

I only read the first few chapters of Lungbarrow before I... got distracted and wandered off (one day I really will finish it), but from what I remember, they had Looms in Rassilon's time. And there was some strange convoluted explanation for how Susan was the Doctor's granddaughter and wasn't at the same time, and it involved the Other and Looms and... that book makes my head hurt.

Re: But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

Kind of. Basically, the Other threw himself into the Looms and died. Something about how a disagreement with Rassilon

The Doctor, Centuries later, was created in the Looms and most of the Other was wrapped up in him.

When the Doctor stole his TARDIS, he broke the rules and went back to the Other's time. Recognizing Susan as the Other's Grandaughter, he took her with him. She, recognizing her Grandfather, called him such. and then, oh shit, they're on earth and here's Ian and Barb.

Re: But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

Which is still ALL crack-fic, because even in his earlier lives, he spoke of being a Child on Gallifrey.

1 had Susan, his grandaughter. 2 spoke of his family and how- if he concentrated he could see them again in his mind. 3 spoke of going up the hill behind his house to see the old hermit. 4 spoke of that same hermit, and the stories he used to tell....
So yeah- Loooooms! are a great way to poke people, but they are completely crack.

Re: But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

Means little. Bear in mind, this was all part of the Cartmel Masterplan, which, as I understand it, had both the Other's memories, and the Doctor's own childhood.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cartmel_Masterplan

So the family could be either.

As I said upthread, I tend to ignore the books, but I could see the Time Lords "weaving" the next generation to ensure genetic stability.

It makes some sense. Time Lords are a cold, almost unfeeling lot. If they've mastered genetics, and Rassilon was, by all accounts, an atheist of the highest order, then his sweeping away of the Old Gods in the name of science could have included a kibosh on intimacy. Away with random genetic flux! The children shall be woven like cloth on a loom, free of disease, of imperfection! Passion supressed by logic, bodies covered in robes, compassion has been crushed under the heel of . . . oh, I can't think of a word. The Time Lords basically walled themselves off from the rest of the universe, post Rassilon and it might have been for the best.

What it all boils down to is, the Doctor is a genetic accident, who, by rights never should have been born and the Rani is actually closer to the Time Lord ideal then I suspect even the Time Lords care to admit.

As for the Master, well he's just nuts.

Re: But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

The book could be attempting to say that ALL Time Lords EVER were created on Looms.

I thought they had been all created from the Looms since, like, a few generations before the Doctor? But I haven't actually read books, just summaries of summaries, so really I have no idea what I'm talking about except the vague idea that someone, somewhere, thought making blankets and wall hangings was the perfect analogy for artificial reproduction, in which case I want my LOOOOOOOOM to look like this on the label.

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