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I also recently read that they're genetically 98% vampire.
Bite me. -Toph
rashaka wrote in metaquotes
goldy_dollar on Doctor Who fandom:

-I have decided that whenever I come across accusations that Rose fans are wanky, I am going to close my eyes and THINK OF THE LOOMS. I mean, really, fandom? You come up with this elaborate backstory where fully grown Time Lords randomly POP OUT OF LOOMS just to have an explanation for why your main character MUST NOT HAVE SEX UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and it is all based on some spin-off book that clearly has NO BASIS IN CANON WHATSOEVER. But Rose fans are wanky? Okay, then.

I find this endlessly amusing. Hahaha. Looooooooooms.


Context is for the weak, like sleep. I still think weaving is an inaccurate metaphor for genetics.

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So many quarters of Doctor Who fans, from the oldest of the old school to the newest of the David Tennant fan-types are wanky in so many measures that I really don't feel the need to cast stones at any one particular group. Then again, I also enjoy randomly yelling "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS!" whenever the topic of DW even comes up, so my personal proclivities are to be taken with a grain of salt.

Re: Hee hee hee. Looms.

Then again, I also enjoy randomly yelling "LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS!" whenever the topic of DW even comes up, so my personal proclivities are to be taken with a grain of salt.

YES. I AM NOT ALONE.

However, I occasionally find myself coming up with elaborate personal canons on where looms came from. This may involve considering the sexuality of Time Lords and may not be entirely healthy.

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It was my understanding that the Looms are part of an arc that was in progress when the series was placed "on hiatus". The spin-off book in question was created out of those arc notes.

Also, the BBC has declared the books to be canon. At least those published between the end of Seven's run and the FOX movie and of course, the books with Eight, as well as the radio plays.

That said, the looms really are a stupid idea, though if sex was removed from the racial equation, it would explain the Time Lords' coldness and unfeeling. They've forgotten intimacy.

Personally, I ignore the looks, have decided that the Time Lords are all assholes and the Doctor hasn't really had those thoughts since his wife died. It took Grace to reawaken that, and then Gallifrey burned so all his defenses were down. Hello, Rose!

Huzzah!


Also, the BBC has declared the books to be canon. At least those published between the end of Seven's run and the FOX movie and of course, the books with Eight, as well as the radio plays.


I don't know if the looms stuff falls in the timeline you describe. *shrug* I've heard conflicting things about this as well, from different fans, but I do remember reading that RTD said he was taking canon from the tv show and the tv movie as the basis for the new series.

Also, I'm pretty sure that there's stuff in the Eight books that directly contradicts stuff in the new BBC series (like Gallifrey's destruction), so it can't be totally canon or it would contradict itself.

I don't particularly care either way, as with tv shows I only regard tv viewable stuff to be canon, and with books I only regard book stuff to be canon, comics with comics, etc, across pretty much any fandom I'm in. I just happen to think some of the stuff from the DW broad base is pretty LOLtastic, like the Looooooooooooms.

And the vampire thing. I read that on a giant index of DW facts, and I still look off screen and snicker every time I think about it.


have decided that the Time Lords are all assholes

That is probably canon no matter who you ask. >D

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS

But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

Hunh, I didn't think the Looms was an excuse for the Doctor to never have sex EVER. I just thought the loom thing was as a population booster cause the Time Lord's birth rate had dropped or depleted or what have you.

I mean the Doctor has/had a granddaughter, you don't get secondary generation thigns like that going on if all your people are made n looms.

But personally I found the Rose/Doctor thing very skeevy and weird, not cause the Doctor can't have sex, it was cause Rose was so immature and drenched in Daddy issues. The Doctor for a while was her daddy figure and any romance after that...yea...awkward.

Re: But yea yelling loooooooms randomly is awesome and amusing

Yesssssssssssssss.

Looms are Who metaphor for procreation. Dancing is the Who metaphor for sex. And the Doctor does dance.

When I first heard about the loom thing in Who, it didn't faze me at all and I just accepted it as normal - because it wasn't the first time I had heard about a person being created from a loom.

And no explanation at all? Who do you know who was created on looms?? (LOOOOOOOOOOOMS!)

Your icon makes me happy. Toph is snarky blind rock-tossing love.

It's been my loyal icon for a couple years now. I got it from someone the week Toph's first episode aired, and have never taken it off since. It's so useful and suited to all purposes!

Looms? As in carpet-weavy-things? ...o_O

Admittedly, I'm a latecomer as my friend insisted I watch an episode of the last series - and no, it's not because of Tennant, although the added pretty is a bonus, it's actually because it was the Pompeii episode and I nearly fell off my chair when Caecilius appeared (Caecilius est in TARDIS ftw) XD

Nonetheless, looms? *bemused blinking*

*edit* fixed typo. */mildly perfectionist*

Edited at 2009-04-26 10:01 am (UTC)

Well, not as in carpet-weavy-things. "Genetic looms", that create the DNA template used to create little Time Lords, to make sure they all think correct uptight non-interfering Time Lord thoughts. The Doctor was a glitch.

I know nothing about Doctor Who, but anything, anything, mentioning looms makes me think of this exchange from Green Wing:

MAC:
A ‘sabot’, or the ‘sabot’ was a kind of wooden clog, it’s worn by impoverished French workers. And as a protest against the Jacquard Loom, which they thought would take away their jobs, they’d throw their sabots, or wooden clogs, into the delicate machinery to destroy its working, from which we get the modern word ‘sabotage’.

GUY:
Yeah, right, now you’ve harshed my buzz, have you got a point?

MAC:
Well if your plan to move in with Caroline is in any way an attempt to sabotage our relationship, I will hit you in the fucking face with a big wooden clog!

I love you for referencing this.

I... think my husband is one of those people. However I don't recognize the book. Anyone have the title?

lol. you just created the most insane metaquotes post in the history of metaquotes.

I know I'm hardly the first (or tenth) on this post to say this, but: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS!

Also, anyway, I agree with the recent commenter on the anonmeme: I don't think reproduction by means of looms = asexuality for the entire society, so.

My Dad and I were having a conversation the other day, and he mentioned the word "looms" (I can't remember why), and I instantly said, out loud, "Looooooms!"

That's a conversation-ender if there ever was one.

This comment, while funny, is one scant series cancellation from being completely wrong.

Behold the Cartmel Masterplan, which special emphasis on The Other.

tl;dr the stuff in Lungbarrow would have been canon but for the show going off the air as they were planning to put it into action. Which I'm a bit of all right with ... because if it had gone through, my self-designed Doctor Who Gratuitous Continuity Drinking Game would prove fatal.

Drinking game? Based on Who continuity?

I pity your liver!

So one must either be a Rosefan or an asexualist? *sigh* Well, it was nice shipping you, Doctor/Romana.

YA RLY. I'm...not getting the logic, here.

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