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How can we really know we are reading this post?
dark goat
caprinus wrote in metaquotes
researchgrrrl is not very philosophisticated:

There came a day in a required philosophy class that I totally took against my will where some nimrod punk-ass dipshit had been all "But what is truth?" to the point that I fully expected my nose to start bleeding, my blood pressure had shot up so much. I finally lost my shit when the braintrust asked how we could know -- really know -- that this book was actually a book. As I packed my things and walked out of the class, I assured him that he might not be able to tell the book was actually a book but he was sure as fuck about to find out it was a suppository.

Context is reading Kant with its colon.


I don't normally comment, but I just have to say that this is one of the funnier metaquotes I have read in a long, long time.

Thank you for the midafternoon giggle. ^_^

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Ahahaha I remember a philosopher that challenged whether you could know you had a face because you can never see it except through a reflection.

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She's rad! Read back a few entries to when there was the naked man running through her work and her boss wore the lobster hat! *sporfle* :)

Do not try to write the post ... that is impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.

(The truth?)


There is no post. Then you will see it is not the post that writes, it is only yourself.

Please... place your face in the book, so that you may be closer to the truth, and so you may know whether it is a book or not...

I reminded of my Formal Logic class, which was interesting and often hilarious (you'd be amazed how funny a good professor can make logic) and full of good cheer, except for when this one girl spoke up. The philosophy major. Who liked to do things like, when discussing "A = A", challenge this assumption because she knew several philosophical theories that would suggest A does not, in fact, always equal A.

We didn't like her so much. But the professor was able to give her gently-worded verbal smackdowns we all adored. Oh, how I miss that class. And oh, how it taught me to stay far, far away from philosophy major.

What is the sound of one mouse clicking?


The Zen method of proving the existance of the Self, the Universe, and Physical Matter has always been "Whack anyone who asks on the back of the head with your stick."

Re: I refute it Thus!

But... wait! I thought the aim of Zen was to deny the existance of the Self, the Universe, and Physical Matter as illusions arising from the mind! The empty mirror! The empty mirror!

Oh who cares. *smashes the mirror with a stick*

Wow, that sounds familiar. She must've been in my class.

One of my friends had a minor mental breakdown after his philosophy teacher told him we couldn't be sure we exist.

My question is: who care? I think it's a book, and that's good enough for me.

I eat, therefore I am.

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My freshman year of college, I had to take a similar philosophy seminar. The teacher and other students were talking about how everything in life is just a random assemblage of molecules that happen to make up something by chance.

One guy raised his hand and asked, "So you mean, sometimes when a woman is pregnant, she has a baby, and other times she just pops out a door?"

I totally forgot that guy's name, but I love him for saying that.

Doesn't "I think, therefor I exist" pretty much cover everything?

- Book doesn't exist -> I think it does -> therefor it exists!

End of philosophy.

You did *not* just quote Descartes in front of me.

"I think, therefore I am," is actually really profound. It's not possible to rationally deny that you are capable of rationality, through meditation, deny that you are capable of meditation, or anything like that. Whatever else we know or don't know about the universe, "I Think" *has* to be true. 'Course, that doesn't necessarily imply a Self, but that's another story.

The rest of Descarte's argument, is complete and utter garbage. "I can think of a perfect being, and it is 'more perfect' to exist than just be a thought, thus, God, who is perfect and created the universe and is benevolent and loving and never lies, therefore, this book has to be a book, because if it looked like a book and it were beyond human ability to know that it wasn't, that'd be like God Lying."

If you'd like to hear them, I've actually got arguments close at hand for why every single freaking step of that argument is wrong. I'm really familliar with his Meditations, entirely because I hate them so much.

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I rather enjoyed MY philosophy class last year - except for the die-hard Christian Republican twit who was in it.

But awesome quote, none-the-less :)

That takes things too far. We know the book exists, but we want to ask just how we know that (not *if* we know it).

We want a basic case because it's easy to know if a book exists. Other cases aren't so cut and dry.


Argh, flashbacks to Greek Lit! One of our teachers was a philosophy prof, and my dear Bastet did that class get booooring!

Prof: "If we all died and some aliens landed on earth, how would they know a chair is a chair? How would they know what they're for?"

Me: "Um, because of all the corpses sitting in them?" *headdesk*

Too bad I didn't come up with a snappy retort like
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Argh, flashbacks to Greek Lit! One of our teachers was a philosophy prof, and my dear Bastet did that class get booooring!

Prof: "If we all died and some aliens landed on earth, how would they know a chair is a chair? How would they know what they're for?"

Me: "Um, because of all the corpses sitting in them?" *headdesk*

Too bad I didn't come up with a snappy retort like <lj-user="researchgrrrl">'s. :)